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of texas congressman lloyd doggett after tax protester joseph stack deliberately crashed his plane into a building housing the austin offices of the irs. >> it hit right above the retaining wall and shot in that building. a gigantic fireball came out, about 50 feet wide, and then windows blew out. >> the pilot is dead, 13 are injured, one unaccounted for. cpac begins. the conservatives sure do have a lot of conferences. >> i think barack obama is a one-term president. >> and look at the cpac chatzky. i have never been prouder. john mellencamp for indiana senator? he may have to give up living in a small town, but at least he gets to hang out with jack reed and dianne feinstein. the unbearable whiteness of being in a tea party. more white-ring blowback, hilarious white-ring blowback. my colleague who covered the protest and took pictures of it saw some blacks in the crowd, although he didn't count them.
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that's some out of a crowd the right claimed was over 1 million. and it's the "not worst persons in the world," where we compliment, not criticism. well said, sir! all the news and commentary now on "countdown"! >> entertainment. entertainment. keep 'em happy. good evening from new york. at the rate things are going, our top story tonight might very well change by the time we get to the end of it, or maybe even before the end of this sentence. at one point yesterday, four democratic senators had signed on to a letter, urging majority leader harry reid to pass a public option, the government-run insurance plan using the legislative process known as reconciliation, which allows a simple majority of 51 to bypass a filibuster, which otherwise requires 60 votes to kill. that figure of four senators had doubled by the afternoon. in the 24 hours since, it has more than doubled again.
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as of now, 18 senators are on the record, asking majority leader reid to pass the public option, which has broad support among independent and democratic voters, using a process so uncontroversial, historically, that it was also used to pass children's health insurance and the cobra insurance. anyone who's ever left a job without another one waiting knows about all too well. the newest signatories, barbara boxer, roland burris, diane finestein, frank lautenberg, barbara mikulski, jack reed, bernie sanders with k chuck schumer, jeanne shaheen, tom udall, they join michael bennett, sherrod brown, al franken, kristen gill jand, john kerry, patrick leahy, jeff merkley. declining to sign this, mary landrieu, joe lieberman, and blanche lincoln. only some support some forms of it or have not said whether they support pass it through reconciliation. counting votes like this also called a whip count. the best we determining whether
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mr. reid will have to vote for the public option. reid has other numbers fonder as he decides whether or not to back the public option. up for re-election in nevada this year, reid is facing trouble in virtually every poll there, which is why he may want to hear about today's newest poll. his constituents oppose the health care bill he passed last month, 58 to 34, but they support the public option 56 to 38, including 61% of independents. and most voters say reid should include a public option if he uses reconciliation to pass health care reform, including 88% of detectives and 58% of independents. joining us now, sam stein, political reporter with the "huffington post." sam, thanks for your time tonight. >> thanks, keith, for having me. >> so we have 18 sergeants. we have three nos, and after 59 senators left in the democratic caucus, we have 38 question marks. you and your staff and my staff did some reporting, went through the existing reporting.
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i want to get your breakout on the list that we've come up with of senators we have a reasonable expectation will vote yes if push comes to shove. daniel akaka, max baucus welcome mark begich, jeff bingaman, cardin, carper, casey, dodd, dorgan, durbin, hagan, harkin, johnson, kaufman, klobuchar, cole, levin, mccaskill, menen z menendez, reid, rockefeller, spector, stabenow, udall and wyden. are these reliable? >> more or less. all have said in the past they supported the public option, conceptually, some more than others. so it stands to reason they would vote for it if it came up to reconciliation. the key names are harry reid, max baucus, and chris dodd. they're not coming out in favor, specifically right now, for using reconciliation. but if one of them did, it would indicate that this process is being taken very seriously by
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leadership and that it actually might have a chance to come to a vote, which is the key matter. >> we'll get to the nos, but i actually think these question marks, these uncertains, we're uncertain, never mind whether they are, is more interesting. evan bayh, maria cantwell, toll carper, feingold, daniel inouye, mark warner, and jim webb. and at least two of those are little surprising, aren't they? >> yeah. people would say, why is russ feingold on it? he happens to be a congressional purist. there's some question as to whether he would constitutionally like to see reconciliation used for this matter. i reached out to his office today. they offered me a very vague response that everything is on the table, which doesn't indicate that he would support it, yes or no. another name that might be surprising for people on that list seven bevan bayh for exact opposite reasons. everyone assumes that the retiring indiana democrat would be a no vote on the public option. instead, his staff tells me specifically tonight that he's
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never ever explicitly said he doesn't support the public plan. also, in an interview he did earlier today on npr, he said he would support the use of reconciliation to support health care legislation, if it was the last option. whether that extends to passing the public option is a big question mark going forward. >> and obviously, bayh can vote his conscious entirely on this. >> yes, now that he's no longer running for re-election, of course. >> the final handful we're not holding out hope for,bird, conrad, ben nelson, and mark pryor. i presume they're all prepared to be the single vote that shoots this down. but the question is, with all these names and numbers thrown out, where are we numerically and how fixed do you think the memories are? >> well, i talked to a couple of senate aides and i've talked to some strategists who have worked on this campaign specifically. they say that it's so much in the air that you can't really tell where it's going. with conrad, it's constitutional concerns about using reconciliation for this path forward. but that said, some think he
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could be persuaded to vote yes. so they don't think they're going to be able to get him. as it stands now, there's about 40 or so definite yeses. about six to seven most likely nos. and what you're dealing with, essentially, is you need about 50 -- you need 51, so you have a margin or two or three to work with, if you're looking at the map right now, which is not a very large margin. but if you get a harry reid or max baucus to join chuck schumer in saying this is the path we should go down, that starts making others get on the record and say they support that. if it comes to a vote, people have to say yes or no, the betting money now is that they will say yes. >> wow. that's exciting news in many respects. and from our lists here, if all the maybes went yes, there would be 52. political reporter sam stein, a great thanks for your time, your assistance also from your "huffington post" staffers crunching these numbers with us. >> thanks, keith. >> joining us to lay out the political impact of that whip count, chris hayes, washington editor of "the nation" magazine. good evening.
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>> good evening, keith. >> well, 40, probably for certain, 45, 46 is realistic. 52 is a high number. and who knows if there's a wild card to pick off there. why is that mathematical momentum, what it stands right now and what it conceivably could be, not creating hope among the progressi ining ininp track this stuff? >> it's creating some hope. the democracy more american, the progressive congress campaign committee and have done a remarkable job of getting people go to whipcongress.com and look up their senator. the whole reason that is moving forward is because they engineered this campaign. to the degree there is some worry or skepticism or tentativeness, it's because it's been with the public option loosy in the football the whole time. is that it's all polled very well, always been popular with the public, always had a sound policy rationale. and yet time and time again,
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when it was in the process of getting into the final legislation, it's been killed. people have been schoolyaarred that. people are a little worried not to get their hopes up. >> we've discussed what harry reid's role is. if he gets close, he's going to go with it and push it. that's his job to go with the majority of what his folks go for. what's he do if it gets to 49? >> what does harry reid do if it gets to 49? that's anyone's guess. look, the rationale for this, politically, i think is quite strong. i'm trying -- you know, one of the things that's easy to do as an opinion journalist is to always kind of see within the public a desire for your preferred policy. and it's very important to resist that temptation. because, frankly the public believes a lot of things that i don't think are good ideas. on this, though, i have been amazed by how reliably popular the public option is. it makes sense to people. it makes sense among independents. it's certainly invigorates for democrats, who have worked very hard. the progressive wing of the party has worked very hard.
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so i think there's a very strong rationale at this point, particularly when you think about midterm elections being determined by base turnout, which is what people generally think is the case and people are very worried about the differentiated levels of enthusiasm on the left and right. this is the kind of thing that can really invigorate the progressive base of the democratic party. >> specifically about reid, though, those numbers from nevada are startling. >> yeah. >> that he is in trouble and they don't like the bill he's passed, but the thing that he has not gotten done and seems to be holding back on at the moment would make him very popular with his base and independents. it seems that if he has to make a purely political decision for his own hide, he has to back the public option. >> yeah. >> how early could he do it? >> well, that's really interesting. i mean, there's sort of two roles, right? there's the role of senator who's up for re-election and then there's the role of caucus leader. and i think harry reid, there are a lot of criticisms of how he's been a majority leader and i think a lot of those criticisms are legitimate. i do think that harry reid has
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generally managed things in a way in which he really has put his own kind of political survival underneath the priorities of being the majority leader. and i think that's to his credit, ultimately. so i think the worry here is that there's a little bit of a rebellion that starts to bubble up amongst the conservative members of the caucus, who don't like this. and the other thing to worry about, right, is the insurance companies start to go an leaptic. and we've seen over time and time again, the insurance companies have a lot of sway in washington. and they start to throw a fit and that actually ends up having a -- that starts registering with the members of caucus and with reid. >> yeah, but the last time this was brought up, this was before the superior court decision about the corporations. this was before much of the impact of the scott brown election got registered for what it really is, which is a kind of anti-corporate, anti-big thing. certainly anti-corporate is involved in it too. so maybe it plays out differently, i don't know. go ahead, chris. >> it's certainly possible that
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it will. i think, look, the momentum here is promising and i think that, at this point, the logic of this, i think, is really irrefutable. the fact of the matter is, this is popular. we need to pass this bill. and if they're listening to the voters, then they will. >> chris hayes of "the nation." great thanks, chris. >> thank you very much. during all this, the president, of course, is not just sitting in the oval office with his feet up on the desk -- oh, you haven't heard about this, the latest right-wing phony outrage, or the latest insistence that the tea parties aren't virtually all white because a guy told another guy he saw some, quote, black people at the 9/12 event? sea salts vary in color and taste. one tops them all. adding it helps us use less salt than before in campbell's tomato soup while keeping the famous flavor. ♪ so many, many reasons
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and now tonight's first quick comment. and no, again, criticism of the president of the united states has absolutely nothing to do with his race. the e-mail has flown around the world already, like a good lie should. subject -- keep your feet off the furniture. does this photo of president obama in the oval office convey anything to you about his
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attitude? yes! look at this. feet up on the presidential desk. "we should inundate the white house with e-mails that he should keep his feet off our furniture. this arrogant, immature, and self-centered man has to sense of decency." these people knew how stupid they looked, some of this asinine madness might actually stop. hey, e-mail writer, perhaps this will refresh your memory. same desk, different shoes. if you don't rescue the guy, it's george w. bush. same desk, different century. that's president ford. and if that were not enough, the racists in the right wing are diggering themselves in deeper by the moment, by trying to answer the unanswerable, the commentary which i noted the obviously, the tea parties are almost exclusively white. one of brent bezell's henchman cites another one of the henchman. "how many blocks were in the
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well." if you have become so angry over the u.s. tax system that your idea of stopping the insanity is to fly your small plane into an office building that houses 200 federal tax employees, that is, by definition, the act of an insane person. a software engineer, the author of that diatribe today, crashing his plane into an austin, texas, office building that houses federal offices, setting off a raging fire. law enforcement officials identifying the pilot as andrew joseph stack iii, and because of that anti-government message posted on a website registered to mr. stack, in which he said, violence is the only answer. investigators saying that the pilot crashed his plane on purpose in an effort to blow up the irs office. mr. stack described more than 30 years of the irs. expressing anger at government bailouts of wall street and other industries at the expense of the middle class. mr. stack concluding that nothing changes unless there is a body count. elsewhere on the web tonight, a facebook page or more than one having been opened, some already closed by facebook.
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one post read, "joseph andrew stack, we salute three." it is our belief that his intention was not to hurt anyone, but to prove a point. if only that were so. one irs employee unaccounted for, as of this hour. two more hospitalized. mr. stack presumed to have died in the crash. based on eyewitness accounts, it is perhaps remarkable that casualties were not far higher. >> it writ right above the retaining wall and shot in that building. a gigantic fireball came out, probably 50-feet wide. then windows blew out. then insulation flew out. then those venetian blinds were flapping everywhere and then the fire started. >> in a neighborhood about six miles from the crash site, about 45 mince before that crash, firefighters were called to stack's home. neighbors having rescued stack's wife and daughter from that fire. democratic congressman lloyd doggett who represents austin today called the apparent attack a cowardly act of domestic the terrorism. let's turn now to nbc news
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justice correspondent, pete williams, who has been following this story from washington since it broke this afternoon. pete, good evening. >> good evening, keith. >> this phrase, "officials suspect he crashed his plane on purpose and are investigating," is that not obvious, or could there be something else to this that we don't know about it? >> there could always be something else that they don't know about, which is probably why they have not formally come out and say that is the reason. but it sure looks that way. it sure seems the plane was directly thrown into the building. there's this 3,000-word essay on his own company website, excoriating the irs, talking about 30 years of trouble with the tax people. not only the federal tax people, but also the tax authorities in california, where his license to do business was twice suspended because he wasn't paying his taxes. and he talks about losing something like $50,000 in tax problems with the irs. so they haven't -- as i understand it, keith, they haven't found anything other than this. no separate note at home. but, you know, they're still
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looking. but i don't know anyone that i've talked to that doesn't assume that that's what happened here. >> is there any question about the nature of the fireball that was discussed by those witnesses? was there some suspicion there might have been extra fuel on the plane or anything else to create that extraordinary scene? >> that is an open question tonight, a very good question. because some people who have looked at the scene you're looking at here say that there isn't enough fuel on a small plane, even when it's fully loaded up with fuel, to cause that kind of fire. now, having said that, fortunately, the number of cases like this where a fully loaded plane flies into a building is quite small, so the field of experience isn't that high here. but it is -- you are right, that's one of the things they're looking into. did he have some extra fuel or some sort of -- some other kind of explosive or some other combustible thing on the plane to enhance the nature of the attack? that's a good question. that's under investigation. i think they don't know that yet. >> this manifesto that describes the 30 years of his grievances
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with the irs and other parts of the government, do we have any idea how long this had been in the works? either this manifesto or his plan, whatever it was? >> well, here's what we definitely know. we know that he posted it just within a few hours of the plane crash this morning. he made the final adjustments to it. and, in fact, he dates it today. and he says at the end, you know, he gives his name and then his date of birth and he lists the date of his death as 2010. he says in the suicide note itself that he started writing this thing many months ago, is the way he put it. he says he started writing it as a form of therapy and that as he wrote it, he just became more and more angry. but by his on words, he says he started this months ago. we don't know, though, when he decided to do this specific act, to set his house on fire and then crash his plane into the building. the only indication that he intended to do it comes -- of
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when he formed that intent is that he made the final adjustments to this website within the past several hours. >> and there's no -- there's no question about the house fire now, that that's his work as well? >> i've been told that all day long, that that's really what started this whole thing for the austin police, is that they got a call of a domestic disturbance. that's how this originally started. and when they got to the house, they realized that it was a fire, called in the fire department. and by that time, he had fled and they know now that he went to the airport. but, initially, keith, it's interesting, they didn't know whether he got into a plane, initially, to try to flee and then just lost control of the plane or whatever. but by tonight, it seems quite clear that this was a deliberate act. >> pete williams, nbc news justice correspondent, staying late for us in washington tonight. as always, pete, thank you for doing that. >> you bet. cpac starts in washington. so does draft a cougar. so does standing on the olbermann doormat. and on it, president cheney says to senator mellencamp.
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of the week opens in d.c. with a speech from dick. first on this date in 1856, a grassroots anti-establishment low government political movement convened in philadelphia to nominate its first presidential candidate, president millard fillmore. on this date in 1861, a grassroots movement convened in montgomery to inaugurate its first leader, jefferson davis. that group was the confederate states of america. what a coincidence. let's play "oddball." we begin in britain with murdoch's sky news coverage of the obama/biden stimulus availability yesterday. anchor kay burley discussing the u.s. economy with correspondent greg milem, neither realizing it was the first day of lent, also known as ash wednesday. >> waiting for joe biden to introduce the president within
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the next few moments. the vice president, as you said -- what happened to his head? i'm sure that's what everybody's asking at home. >> he's been up in vancouver for the winter olympics, and there's the face of the administration there. so whether there was some accident, we don't know. >> he's probably been have a go on the tea trays down the luge or something. certainly looks like quite a bruise. >> you see what happens, henry viii. see what happens when you kick out the catholic church. forget about that papal assignment. eventually someone called in. she apologized, said she was a very bad catholic wiand went to break. and two models strutting their stuff on the runway, styling the latest trends for this fall. or, make that one one model styling the latest -- medic! now, they don't actually call it suspension of reality weekend, but they might as well have.
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seminars called "saving freedom" and with so-called rising political stars trying mightily to figure out how to handle the tea parties, the annual conference of the conservative political action committee began with an unexpected roar today. the early surprise appearance from former vice president dick cheney actually greeted by chants of "run, dick, run." >> a welcome like that is almost enough to make me want to run for office again. but i'm not agoing to do it. the sky's the limit here. i think 2010's going to be a phenomenal year for the conservative cause. and i think barack obama is a one-term president.
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>> he made a cameo with his daughter, who rolled through her greatest hits of bashing the president, including the claim that the obama administration had missed or ignored warning signs leading up to the attempted christmas day attack by the unsuccessful underwear bomber. >> now, there's no polite way to put this, but that kind of can incompetence gets people killed, and yet no one has been held accountable. >> are we talking about the bush administration -- oh, no, bonus points to miss cheney for saying that with a straight face. jim demint told "roll call," marco rubio challenging governor charlie crist for that spot. rubio also praising the tea partyers and other so-called average citizens. >> they have taken matters into their own hands. from tea parties to the election in massachusetts. you see, 2010 is not just a choice between republicans and democrats. it's not just a choice between
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liberals and conservatives. 2010 is a referendum on the very identity of our nation. >> more on mr. rubio in a moment. house minority leader boehner offering the gop campaign message to win back congress. >> ladies and gentlemen, if you help elect a republican congress this november and if i'm fortunate enough to be the speaker of the house, i'll pledge to you right here, right now that we're going to run the house differently. and i don't mean differently from the way the democrats are running the house today. i mean differently in the way the house has been run under both democrats and republicans in the past. >> and mr. boehner took a moment to mark an anniversary, a year since house republicans unanimously voted no on the recovery act, the stimulus. >> i was still taking heat from keith olbermann and others on the left, all because they didn't like the fact that i threw the bill on the floor. you know, they called it
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disrespectful. and they said we were committing political suicide. they said it was the death nail for the republican party and the death nail for conservatives. well, as usual, they were wrong. >> no, i said spray tans were disrespectful. but boehner and 110 of his gop brethren have touted, in speech or letter or website posting various jobs that the recovery act created. choosing hypocrisy for the sake of self-congratulation. and at the conservative media research center's booth, a lovely carpet now available. suitable for your door or your bathroom, i suppose. "stomp out the liberal media." i'm honored. does kind of bring a different meaning to those doormats that o'reilly sells. "stamp out patriots welcome here." on that note, let's turn to the cofounder of "the huffington post," arianna huffington. arianna, good evening. >> good evening, keith.
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>> for all the conserve-o-love that was poured on marco rubio, that highlight must have been, "run, dick, run." and this tells us everything we need to know, right? >> right. is this the convergence of voters going back to dick cheney? voters have short memories. when he was left office, his approval rating was at 13%. that was before all those torture memories, before we learned how he wanted waterboarding used to get those confessions, linking 9/11 to iraq. so i think if anybody was chanting, "run, dick, run" look with those at the convention, it might have been barack obama and his re-election team. >> well, obviously, obama's the focus here, not cheney, not scott brown, who warmly introduced governor romney, but even his status did not, sort of, translate or transfer to
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romney. the half-governor, sarah palin, was not there. obama is the common enemy, but who is the leader against the common enemy, from their point? >> well, that's really the problem with the republican party. they are still in search of a leader. remember, mitt romney actually won the straw poll at the convention last year. and bobby jindal came second. and if you want to go down memory lane, in '05 and '06, the straw poll was run by george allem. so i don't know how seriously we can take all the goings on at the convention in terms of predictions of who the leader of the republican party is going to be in 2012. >> the rubio explosion, which is for a guy who hasn't gotten a nomination yet, let alone a seat, he may very well wind up be beating governor crist for the senate, but in states and districts where the rubio, to use a term, loses to the more establishment republican, are we
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seeing more possible repeats of what happened in the new york 23rd? >> that's really the problem at the moment with a republican fighting the tea party movement. they do not own the tea party movement. many tea partyers have made it very clear that it's a pox on both their houses and their allegiance is not necessarily to the republican party. now, they were scolded for that by sarah palin this week. but the point is, we don't know where all this is going to end. and the danger is that republicans are playing with gasoline and matches. because they are taking the legitimate anger at unemployment and fusing it with a very dark anger that we saw today at the convention with all these displays of violence, with what you described about the stomping of you and others on the floor with the piñatas of harry reid and nancy pelosi and even a punching bag of john mccain.
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>> they yelled at orrin hatch yesterday, but one more thing about what boehner said about throwing the last -- essentially, threw the last republican congress under the bus in hopes of convincing whoever out there that they weren't conservative enough, they'll get it right next time. that's one of the great charltan acts you could possibly come up with. it's a new republican party led by the same damned people. >> and actually, it's the washington establishment running against the washington establishment. and i don't know how well this is ultimately going to go down, because, remember, today, some of the biggest applause was reserved for bush and cheney, which is kind of stunning. and it shows how confusing everything is at the moment. >> they want to run bush and cheney again, we should change the constitution and let them. arianna huffington of "the huffington post," great thanks, arianna. >> thank you. all right, so pick out your
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favorite of these song titles and apply it to this story. the effort to convince john mellencamp to run to succeed evan bayh in indiana. tonight, it is the not worst persons in the world. why i will defend ann coulter's right to make a joke she made based on my dead mother. and rachel joins you at the top of the hour, from washington, where she spent the day at cpac and lived to tell the tale to thee. somewhere in america... the slightest breeze harbors immense power. the tallest buildings leave the lightest footprints.
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ahead, a special edition of "worst persons" where i agree with, defend, or praise each of them. the not worst persons in the world. but tonight, the second of tonight's quick comment. and something is very wrong with me here. i'm beginning to love the tea party. senator orrin hatch of utah told a crowd at american fork junior high last night that they had better get in line. if we fractionalize the republican party, he told this group, we're going to see more liberals elected. somebody in the crowd of 300 elected, i think you guys are as out of touch as you can get. hatch doesn't get it.
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the tea crowd doesn't want reform, doesn't want to be heard. it wants something for nothing. in fact, it wants everything for nothing, including violence. a woman speaker at the take back america rally in eastern washington underscored that point, speaking of her state's democratic senator. she asked rhetorically, how many of you have watched the movie "lonesome dove"? what happened to jake when he ran with the wrong crowd? he got hung. and that's what i want to do with patty murray. so which one of the founding fathers advocated that, ma'am? john quincy molotov? and there are the political leaders of that movement, speaking at that cpac conference. marco rubio said the recent washington snowstorm crippled the obama administration because, quote, the president couldn't find anywhere to set up a teleprompter to announce new taxes, ha-ha. mr. rubio appears to have read this cheap shot off one or both of the two teleprompters you see in this picture of him giving this speech. hearing rubio speak, south
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subaru, the only manufacturer with 2010 iihs top safety picks for all models. well, if he does run for senate from indiana, he'll really know the lyrics of "hurts so good." the john mellencamp bandwagon, that's next. but first, a weird version of "worst persons" in the world.
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tonight, going to praise three people with whom i have, until now, disagreed with 100% of the time. tonight's "not worst persons in the world." lebron's of this bizarro edition, congresswoman martha blackburn of tennessee. sent an e-mail for big picked worst person in the world will help her raise campaign funds. as my re-election campaign swings into high gear, i know a attacks like these from the liberal media will become more frequent and more vicious. will you make an immediate contribution to help me prepare for these comie ining attacks. i'm going to compliment you for trying to make yourself into chicken salad. and i've got more good news. your campaign mailer, it's wrong. nine days ago you were on the list, but this screen cap from the february 9th shows, you only won the bronze, not the gold. you finished behind senator
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inhofe. so now you can send out another fund-raiser explaining that the liberal media has called you out for not knowing third place from first place. our runner-up in "not worsts," lonesome roads beck. that's right, someone else i've attacked ceaselessly. but i find myself finally agreeing with hmm pip finalim. final saying the man has made an intelligent remark. it's his position and the posture of those who do not believe he's someone with a drug-destroyed mind and who instead believe in him. yes, glenn, when you said this, i finally understood you. [ barking ] >> and glenn, when you and your pals barked "jingle bells," fabulous. but our winner in our special competition, coulter geist. a column in which she announced she stopped believing
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ahmadinejad lied, now just takes his word for it, veered off into some really weird territory. of me, she writes. "after donning his mother's house koethe, undergarments, and fuzzy slippers, then olbermann's even creepier sidekick, richard wolffe, then olbermann's most macho guest, rachel maddow -- now, i know your reaction to this. usually even political points don't go invoking other people's recently deceased mothers, and coulter's continuing self-reveltory obsession with sexual identity suggests a hell of a backstory in her own life. but i'm going to defend this. all i have to say about ann coulter is this. if this guy wants to live his life as a woman, i'm going to back his choice up 100%. coult coultergeist, today's "not worst person in the world."
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as indiana democrats scramble to find a replacement
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for evan bayh in the senate, one grassroots organization wants to enlist perhaps the second most well-known hoosier of our time. he was born in a small town and is known, occasionally, to r.o.c.k. in the usa. john mellencamp has neither confirmed nor denied he's interested in running. a longtime supporter of candidates, mellencamp's popular advocacy for farmers making him a likely proponent for the working class. birch bayh joining us shortly. writing that mellencamp is one of the great advocates of smalltime america, of the kind of square deal for americans that teddy roosevelt once championed. the news of possible candidate mellencamp causing the conservative blog hot air to sneer, this tool is very far left at a moment when being very far left isn't exactly a political asset. odd considering that such the lefty tool, he attracted the likes of john mccain, who played pinkhouses in our country at his campaign rallies until mr. mellencamped asked him to stop,
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pointing out that a true conservative probably shouldn't subscribe to a populist pro-labor message. ain't that america. i actually got to talk about that with the most well-known hoosier during my visit to his show which will air later tonight on cbs. >> one of the senators from my home state, the senior senator, of course, richard lugar, and evan bayh, son of birch bayh, a longtime senator from indiana, announced that he would not seek re-election, because he couldn't get anything done in congress. and while i'm sure that's true, doesn't that put an end to his political career? because he's just saying, i can't work in a political system, i'm going to open a wallpaper store. i mean, isn't that really what he did? >> well, yeah, i think we're giving him a show on msnbc, in fact. >> well, there you go. >> a little lower than a wallpaper store. but you know who they're trying to get to replace him, right? john mellencamp. >> i heard that. i saw that in the paper today. that's fantasy.
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he would donate n't do it. >> why not? >> i know that john mellencamp smokes cigarettes. >> well, i know that the president of the united states has smoked cigarettes. >> see, look at trouble he's having. >> you have me there, dave. joining me now, brent budowski. thanks for some of your time tonight, sir. >> pleasure to be here. >> here's the question. any word on how john mellencamp feels about this draft mellencamp movement? >> not yet. what's happened is, these events happened suddenly and quickly, out of nowhere when evan bayh surprised everyone and decided he wasn't going to run again. there were plenty of good, patriotic americans all over the country and in indiana especially that rallied to try to draft him. this came out of the blue. it's a grassroots movement from people who care about the country and about indiana. and as they mobilize, i think there mellencamp is probably e digesting events as all of us
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are. >> you called this possibility an inspired idea. why, particularly, that choice of words? >> well, i think what democrats should stand for and have a candidate for is the idea that we fight for people, as mellencamp does, who are having their homes foreclosed. we don't fight for people, as his probable opponent, dan coats, the former senator and bank lobbyist, we don't fight for people who are doing fund-raisers for banks and writing bills to make banks wealthier and to throw people out of their homes. we fight for people the way john mellencamp does, to keep small town america alive. to keep jobs in this country. we don't fight for people the way the republicans do. the way his opponent, senator coats, probably will, who want to outsource jobs. who want to close down small towns and be crushed in the economy. so we want a country and candidates like john mellencamp, who really believe in the heartland of america, the sole of america, the character of america, the decency of america, the working people and the
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farmers. i mean, the work that he did on farm aid is spectacular, with wille nelson and other great americans. the work that mellencamp did with veterans, when he went to walter reed hospital and did a wonderful and moving and personal concert, you know, for the heroes who came back wounded from afghanistan and iraq. a whole lifetime, keith, of fighting for heartland america. and what they offer is a lifetime and a career of fighting for banks and wall street and foreclosures. >> it's an old-fashioned notion these days, with scott browns being elected and al frankens being elected, not that i'm equating the two of them, but it is an advantage to not have a political record before you run for office these days? >> i think it's an advantage to have spent your life trying to help people and running against the party that hopes america fails. that's what the republicans have become. the hope america fails party. we saw that again today at the convention of conservatives, because they hate the president so much and they want to win, they hope the country fails so the president won't succeed. to have the experience of being
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a bank lobbyist and a wall street lobbyist and going to bank fund-raisers and supporting the people who are foreclosing homeowners, who are raising credit card rates for people all over indiana, who are cheating americans left and right. that's the kind of experience that his opponent would have. and i think the kind of experience of fighting for small towns and people hoping to keep their homes and to keep jobs in america and to keep our country flourishing. i think mellencamp has the kind of experience that americans want. there has been an outpouring of support from the grassroots from people who want to be proud again and believe again. with having people like john mellencamp, who have to kind of experience that americans value, not the washington hack lobbyist campaign money experience. i mean, 80% of americans hate the supreme court decision and want it reversed. it allows companies to buy elections. and that's what dan coats comes out of and what the republicans want. and mellencamp is for the people. >> brent budowski, a columnist for the hill. you can throw in there as well,
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in a small room with about 1,000 people at a time, he makes a heck of an impression. >> that's "countdown." i'm keith olbermann. good night and good luck. before i send you to rachel maddow, a survivor of the start of today's cpac conservative conference in washington, a reminder that i'll be appearing on the "late show with david letterman" tonight. i got a warm reception, but i did not get quite as warm a reception as when smith college president carol t. crist told the senior class there who is going to give the commencement speech this year. >> stanford university graduate -- rhodes scholar, political analyst, and national television host -- rachel maddow! [ cheers and applause ]
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>> ladies and gentlemen -- [ cheers and applause ] here is rachel maddow. good evening, rachel. >> i should tell you guys that after the reception that dick cheney got at cpac today, they might be trading up. they might be trading for him. do you think? >> oh, yeah, i'm sure. he'd go there and never come back. >> that was both very kind and very troubling of you to have done that, keith. thank you very much. >> that was the plan. you're welcome. bring me back a door mat, please. >> indeed. you know, the door mats, you looked so good on the door mats, i think you should take it as a compliment. they picked very handsome pictures of both you and chris. >> the whole staff wants one. two, one for the office, one for their homes. >> they're $32.95, they're made in america. i've got the order form. >> thank you. >> all right. >> see you. >> thanks to you at home for tuning in today. today was cpac day here in

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